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I appreciate that, hun. It's even harder when she's pretty much the

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Date: Sun, 22-Jun-2025 11:37:36 AM PDT
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In topic: ~~*Week of June 16th Potpourri*~~ posted by Leia
In reply to: I’m sorry that your BFF doesn’t want to go to Marietta with you and even sorrier posted by Kitchop
only person I travel with. Dad has no desire to go anywhere (and hasn't for literal decades). Good church friend is willing but doesn't have the funds. Other friends are out of state and busy with their own lives. Bro can't afford to/doesn't have the time to, and the nieces and nephews have their own lives and would only consider a trip if it's a family thing. I could maybe convince Sis to do a sister's trip but we have different ideas on where we'd like to go...plus she's not great with planning or even doing the things she says we'll do. My best trip with Sis was the last one, at Edisto Island in '22, only because there was no itinerary whatsoever, and there were plenty of opportunities for folks to go do their own thing.

Even though she was burned out, as our healthcare system burns out many healthcare workers, she probably feels like she lost a big chunk of her identity when she quit nursing. I know that you don’t think about your jobs that way, but many people lose more than their income when they lose their job.

I've considered that. I mentioned here before that she went into nursing for the money and the steady income, not because she had a burning desire to help people. That sounds harsh--she's not totally without empathy--but even she will admit to it. At first, she was proud to be a nurse...a little TOO proud, TBH, always working her occupation into any conversation with a stranger within the first few sentences. But I know she feels nursing is no longer considered a career to be admired, despite the bump of approval it gained during the pandemic when people were "clapping medical personnel off to work" and sending pizzas to hospitals. So IMO--and this is JUST my opinion--I think she's fine with losing her identity as a nurse but not as someone receiving a higher salary.

Do you know what her financial situation is regarding the roof over her head? Does she have a mortgage to pay?

Ah, now this is a major mystery to me. On the one hand, I'm not a homeowner and Dad pays most of the bills associated with being one, such as utilities and property taxes. So I'm certain her expenses are MUCH more than mine. But OTOH, her house is paid off. Her car is paid off. She's never had kids or any other dependents. She's never had expensive hobbies. She travelled but no more than once a year and only once to a destination outside of the US/Canada (a trip to Italy with a cousin, where they split costs and occasionally stayed for free with family). Which leads me to wonder...where did the money go? She was out of work slightly longer than I was, though she briefly worked for her nephew (and didn't get paid as much as she was owed, unfortunately), so there's that to consider. But I've wondered--and there's really no polite way to ask--if she's *truly* broke or if a chunk of her salary from her nursing days went to some kind of fund she can't/won't touch until retirement. I remember a (very) vague discussion years ago about her having a 403B plan through the hospital where she worked and her saying it was so much better than a 401K plan, which it very well may be since I know nothing about 403Bs <g>. She might've put a huge chunk of salary in that and would be unable to (or just highly encouraged not to?) touch it until she reaches a certain age.

All you can do is be a supportive friend. And I hope she is being a supportive friend to you.

Thank you, and she is.

Do you feel like you could talk about being worried that she’s depressed with her? Maybe even bring up the possibility of her seeing a professional therapist? Depression can feel overwhelming and hopeless. But life is a roller coaster. The good times don’t last forever so we should try not to take them for granted. But the bad times don’t last forever either. It’s important for us all to keep that in mind. Anyway, if you can’t get her to consider seeing a therapist, maybe you can get her to have a real heart-to-heart talk with a friend.

I would like to ask her just that. I can see her saying no to a therapist--she'd claim that's money she doesn't have to spend. But there are free resources available if she really wanted to talk to someone...or she could just talk to me. As long as we've been besties, we've never really been the "open our hearts and pour it out to one another" type of friends, though I feel the option is there for either of us, if that makes sense. I was telling good church friend today after church that I'm hoping to get bff (who gcf is also friends with now) out to just DO things other than work, cocoon at home and fret about her situation. If she'd be open to that...there's certainly nothing wrong with cocooning but that's never really been who she is. But maybe it's who she is now? If so, I wish she'd just TELL me so I could stop thinking about possible future trips we could take :-(


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